It's the most complete X360 set though so I guess it's valued appropriately in relation to the arcade though. why is the elite 360 such a horrible val ...
you failed when you brought up the arcade. you do realise that the arcade SKU is aimed at the casuals and no self respecting gamer would want one... the HDD is vital in many games, with some like halo 3 demanding it for some features. the pro 360 with the 60gig harddrive is the bargin basement for a gamer to get into the HD generation of games, and for an extra 100$ instead of 120 or whatever the stand alone drive is, why not just grab an elite.in conclusion.... /thread
I bought the elite a year ago..120gb, hdmi, runs cooler/quieter, looks better. And I would not waste my money on the arcade unless you just want a single player experience.
Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400
Well, the arcade isn't backwards compatible (Because there's no HDD), and doesn't come with a HDD, and it doesn't come with HD cables, or a network cable, or a headset. If I didn't own a Xbox 360 -- I would buy a Premium Xbox 360, not the Elite and certainly not the Arcade.
[QUOTE=''MikeE21286'']Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400[/QUOTE] darkspineslayer, this combination is cheaper even with the incredibly overpriced 120 gig hdd.
[QUOTE=''MikeE21286''] Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400 [/QUOTE] add on the network cable, headset and HDMI/HD cable and tell me how much again? [QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer'']Well, the arcade isn't backwards compatible, and doesn't come with a HDD[/QUOTE] actualy the HDD is what makes it BC, its not the system itself that can't handle it
[QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer'']Well, the arcade isn't backwards compatible, and doesn't come with a HDD, and it doesn't come with HD cables, or a network cable, or a headset. If I didn't own a Xbox 360 -- I would buy a Premium Xbox 360, not the Elite and certainly not the Arcade.[/QUOTE] exactly. ms isn't giving consumers a real choice. either they buy a needlessly dumbed down sku or they spend hundreds more for a few overpriced features.
[QUOTE=''darkspineslayer''][QUOTE=''MikeE21286''] Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400[/QUOTE] add on the network cable, headset and HDMI/HD cable and tell me how much again? [QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer'']Well, the arcade isn't backwards compatible, and doesn't come with a HDD[/QUOTE] actualy the HDD is what makes it BC, its not the system itself that can't handle it[/QUOTE] well yeah, I know there are extra things....the ELite is not that horrible...You asked why the Elite is perceived to be a horrible value, I was just giving the reason why people say that. If you don't have an HDTV you don't need those cables (then again if you don't have an HDTV you're probably buying a Wii). And a network cable can be had for nothing, so that doesn't really matter, and yeah, the headset is nice, but you don't have to have it.All I was doing was showing the reason people say you can have basically the same experience for a cheaper price.
[QUOTE=''darkspineslayer''][QUOTE=''Stevo_the_gamer'']Well, the arcade isn't backwards compatible, and doesn't come with a HDD[/QUOTE] actualy the HDD is what makes it BC, its not the system itself that can't handle it[/QUOTE]Aw! Thanks for the correction. :)
Dont know why hardcore lemmings should care since if they are hardcore lemmings they should own a 360 already, but yeah Elite is not worth it anymore.
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']I bought the elite a year ago..120gb, hdmi, runs cooler/quieter, looks better. And I would not waste my money on the arcade unless you just want a single player experience. [/QUOTE]I have an elite also. It also comes with an HDMI cable. These cables retail for $40+.
[QUOTE=''civic_misfit''][QUOTE=''MikeE21286''] Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400 [/QUOTE] darkspineslayer, this combination is cheaper even with the incredibly overpriced 120 gig hdd. [/QUOTE] but it is still not the same experiance however. here, i will add on all the extras to make it on par with the eliteArcade + 120 gig HDD + componante HD/AV cable + Wired headset + decent network cable + HDMI cable= aproximatly $540 $350 for the console and harddrive, $50 for the HD cables, $40 and upwards for HDMI (thank you random poster), $29.99 for a wired headset, around 25-50 dollers for a decent network cable (and trust me, most will need another one anyways because the one they give you is short) honestly, your a lot better off ;)
I still don't understand why so many people dismiss the Arcade model. If you don't care about demos or large DLC, I see no reason why one wouldn't consider it.
[QUOTE=''mattbbpl'']I still don't understand why so many people dismiss the Arcade model. If you don't care about demos or large DLC, I see no reason why one wouldn't consider it.[/QUOTE] thats hitting the nail on the head actualy...the casuals that find the system attractive don't think about or want DLC or demos...they just want a few games.the people on gamespot however hunger for more, that is why they dismiss the arcade.
Because companies like M$ know they can take advantage of people who don't see that they're getting bent over for a insanely marked up hard drive and a different coat of paint.
[QUOTE=''darkspineslayer''][QUOTE=''civic_misfit''][QUOTE=''MikeE21286''] Arcade + 120 gig HDD = $350Elite = $400[/QUOTE] darkspineslayer, this combination is cheaper even with the incredibly overpriced 120 gig hdd. [/QUOTE] but it is still not the same experiance however. here, i will add on all the extras to make it on par with the eliteArcade + 120 gig HDD + componante HD/AV cable + Wired headset + decent network cable + HDMI cable= $350 + $49.99 + 29.99 + depends on lenth needed (and trust me, most will need another one anyways because the one they give you is short) + whatever the HDMI cable is worth *its not on the site* = about $500 dependinghonestly, your a lot better off[/QUOTE] you are missing the point. microsoft overprices the cost of these accessories in order to force the people who want them to buy an elite. imo that is not a real choice. compare the features of the ps3 such as blu ray, wifi, generic hdd, six axis, free online, and you will see that microsoft is trying to profit as much as possible while sony is being as generous as possible. i'm a lemming like you and i chose the 360 for the games but i can see that we are being milked.as i said before, the arcade is well priced and once ms adds an hdd, then we will see the sales of the 360 surge.
the elite is very bad value. i dont know why anyone would buy it over the 60gb the arcade is a very good value if you're a casual gamer or already have a ps3. plays 99% of games
Buy the Halo 3 CE 360.. the best value right now if you can find it i think haha.
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