For those of you saying MGS4 was downgra ...

I hate to be the catalyst of further MGS4 discussion, seeing as how the game came out so long ago. However, justsice needs to be served.I've seen an entire THREAD of people saying that Kojima 'confirmed' that MGS4 was downgraded due to the fact that he was expecting the PS3 to be a miracle machine. This is true, but this realization took place early in development. When they were planning MGS4 he said something like ''our plan was to take MGS 10 steps further, but in reality we were only able to take it 1 step further.'' This doesn't mean it was downgraded; you couldn't be more confused. It simply means Kojima had a dream that couldn't be met, but still provided us with a stellar game.Everything I just said is on an article in IGN. I can't find the article, but I found the video that was tagged with the article. IGN was blown away by how much they UPGRADED the game in 2 years. The following video is a compoarison of the 2006 trailer and the final build trailer. Take note of how in the 2006 version, detail was washed out by a green tinted lighting. In the final build, you can see clear detail in snake's wrinkles, clothing patterns, and overall polish.Downgraded my buttox.http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/714044/metal-gear-solid-4/videos/mgs4_06vs08_060608.htmlP.S. I'm not a fanboy, I haven't even played MGS4, so please, no spoilers.EDIT: This vid is really old, I know, but clearly a lot of people haven't seen it.
EDIT2: Typo... For those of you saying MGS4 was downgra ...
*waits for MojondeVACA to come in*For those of you saying MGS4 was downgra ...
It was still downgraded from what he'd wanted, yeah of course the game got better looking over the 2 years, but he probably invisioned a machine that could do something massively different to the 360 in terms of providing a better experience, when really it's the same, or slightly better, if certain people are to be believed.
I'm amazed that people still care.
[QUOTE=''bobbetybob'']It was still downgraded from what he'd wanted, yeah of course the game got better looking over the 2 years, but he probably invisioned a machine that could do something massively different to the 360 in terms of providing a better experience, when really it's the same, or slightly better, if certain people are to be believed.[/QUOTE] It was never downgraded. Downgraded means something amazing was promised and we got something less than that. To the gamers, the game just kept getting better and better. If kojima never publicly stated that the game wont be as good as He HIMSELF wanted it to be, there would be ZERO talk of downgrade.
Good comparison. Obviously the main change you see is the color difference. That yellow was ugly, glad they changed it.Regardless of downgrades/upgrades/sidegrades whatever people want to claim...it doesn't matter, becuase the game is awesome.If someone was hurt so bad by the 10 that they need to create a thread months after its release with old articles claiming downgrade, then they're just looking to annoy people.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']I'm amazed that people still care.[/QUOTE] lol -shrugs-
The final build looks better in some places imho
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Kojima Productions was talking abouthttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/8346.html
Final Build ended up looking better, im glad they took out that yellow tint.
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i think the lighting quality was better before but most of everything else was better in the final build. im not sure what to make of the tint, i love the artistic style of it, but i also love the style now, confused :(
If Kojima said he wanted to go farther with the game I'd trust him over blind fanboys, just throwing that out there.

How does anyone know what Kojima intended and couldn't do in those two years between the releases. Most people try to make the game look and play better in that time. Kojima said because the PS3 was limited he couldn't provide his best experience.

i post what i said in the last threadisn't that funny. mgs4 was downgraded and still out scored every exclusive on the 360. some people really need to get off mgs4 back. just get over it
I call that an upgrade.I would've been irritated if that green tint was in the game. And there's more detail in the final version.EDIT: And damn, that song will never get old!
[QUOTE=''Toriko42'']If Kojima said he wanted to go farther with the game I'd trust him over blind fanboys, just throwing that out there.

How does anyone know what Kojima intended and couldn't do in those two years between the releases. Most people try to make the game look and play better in that time. Kojima said because the PS3 was limited he couldn't provide his best experience.
[/QUOTE]So he intended for better but couldn't due to the hardware limitations. I hate overpromising. Why can't anyone underpromise and then surprise us with better-than-expected results?
Why do people feel the need to create separate threads just to put across their opinion for a topic that already has a thread? It's just attention seeking.
it ended up being a sub-HD resolution upscaled to HD. I think that pretty much ends the discussion and this thread no? i mean it's a fact this game can't be natively displayed in even 1080i or 720p... it's upscaled. story over.
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