Friday, April 16, 2010

What System Do You Think Wiil Win

TopicWhat System Do You Think Wiil Win
The Wii will win in terms of sales. The PS3 will win in terms of games. Believe it.

If MS made a Smash Bros., then the roste ...

Here's what I think the character roster would be. Please add on, cus I had a lot of fun thinking about this. (multiplats welcome)MS:Saren (Mass Effect)Commander Shephard (Mass Effect)Master Chief (Halo)Arbeiter (Halo)Marcus (Gears)Dom (Gears)General RAM (Gears)Banjo %26 Kazooie (B%26K)Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark)Niko Bellic (maybe, GTA4)Kameo (Kameo, she would be like the pokemon trainer, who can change)Kaim (Lost Odyssey)Seth (Lost Odyssey)Shu (Blue Dragon, uses the dragon for help) Dante (DMC4)Nero (DMC4)Allegretto (Eternal Sonata)Jazz (Eternal Sonata) 2 of the cooler agents from CrackdownBid Daddy (Bioshock, has a little sister on his back)Fable Hero (Fable 2)Yuri (Tales of Vesperia)Raven (Tales of Vesperia)Flynn (Tales of Vesperia)A character from Left 4 DeadI guess Prof. Pester (Viva Pinata)Altair (Assassin's Creed)Baulder (Too Human)DOG (Half Life 2)Gordan Freeman (Half Life 2)Anyone else. Yes, Multi plat games are welcom! If MS made a Smash Bros., then the roste ...
No... just no. And even if they did there would be no way in hell characters from Eternal Sonata or Tales of Vesperoa would be in it.If MS made a Smash Bros., then the roste ...
How could you forget Blinx!? :P
Pretty sure DOA satisfies 360 owners...I know I'd be satisfied with it...
I doubt they'd include Dom as well as Fenix, as they'd fight pretty much exactly the same wouldnt they? Other than that that's a great list, and it honestly made me think of how awesome that game would be. :P How could you forget Ryu Hyabusa though?
[QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']I doubt they'd include Dom as well as Fenix, as they'd fight pretty much exactly the same wouldnt they? Other than that that's a great list, and it honestly made me think of how awesome that game would be. :P How could you forget Ryu Hyabusa though?[/QUOTE]DANG ITOk,Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden)and the Lost planet guyAnd Marcus and Dom would be like Fox and Falco, one's a bit faster, i guess.
Sigh everytime I see a topic like this it just makes me think...why isn't Sony and Microsoft making a game like Smash on their platforms...it doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=''-TheSecondSign-'']Pretty sure DOA satisfies 360 owners...I know I'd be satisfied with it...[/QUOTE]IMO smash brothers is so much more funner than DOA
ArbiterRyu HayabusaPossibiliy someone from Fable 2 ? Main Ninja Blade guy Alan Wake
[QUOTE=''Squall18''][QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']I doubt they'd include Dom as well as Fenix, as they'd fight pretty much exactly the same wouldnt they? Other than that that's a great list, and it honestly made me think of how awesome that game would be. :P How could you forget Ryu Hyabusa though?[/QUOTE]DANG ITOk,Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden)and the Lost planet guyAnd Marcus and Dom would be like Fox and Falco, one's a bit faster, i guess. [/QUOTE]The problem is you are counting on too much 3rd party help. For each 3rd person MS has to pay money to use them.
Hey those game characters are multiplatform. so you can add some exclusives.
Kameo would be great for a game like that
hudson the horse off viva pinatta
[QUOTE=''Squall18'']Here's what I think the character roster would be. Please add on, cus I had a lot of fun thinking about this. (multiplats welcome)MS:Saren (Mass Effect)Commander Shephard (Mass Effect)Master Chief (Halo)Arbeiter (Halo)Marcus (Gears)Dom (Gears)General RAM (Gears)Banjo %26 Kazooie (B%26K)Joanna Dark (Perfect Dark)Niko Bellic (maybe, GTA4)Kameo (Kameo, she would be like the pokemon trainer, who can change)Kaim (Lost Odyssey)Seth (Lost Odyssey)Shu (Blue Dragon, uses the dragon for help) Dante (DMC4)Nero (DMC4)Allegretto (Eternal Sonata)Jazz (Eternal Sonata) 2 of the cooler agents from CrackdownBid Daddy (Bioshock, has a little sister on his back)Fable Hero (Fable 2)Yuri (Tales of Vesperia)Raven (Tales of Vesperia)Flynn (Tales of Vesperia)A character from Left 4 DeadI guess Prof. Pester (Viva Pinata)Altair (Assassin's Creed)Baulder (Too Human)DOG (Half Life 2)Gordan Freeman (Half Life 2)Anyone else. Yes, Multi plat games are welcom! [/QUOTE]To many 3rd parties. The ones I bolded are the ones that I think have no chance.
[QUOTE=''Auroni'']Sigh everytime I see a topic like this it just makes me think...why isn't Sony and Microsoft making a game like Smash on their platforms...it doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Licencing fees. Going off Squal18's list...[QUOTE=''Squall18'']Here's what I think the character roster would be. Please add on, cus I had a lot of fun thinking about this. (multiplats welcome)MS:Saren (Mass Effect) BioWare/Electronic ArtsCommander Shephard (Mass Effect) BioWare/Electronic ArtsMaster Chief (Halo) BungieArbeiter (Halo) BungieMarcus (Gears) Epic GamesDom (Gears) Epic GamesGeneral RAM (Gears) Epic GamesBanjo %26 Kazooie (B%26K) Microsoft/RareJoanna Dark (Perfect Dark) Microsoft/RareNiko Bellic (maybe, GTA4) Rockstar GamesKameo (Kameo, she would be like the pokemon trainer, who can change) Microsoft/RareKaim (Lost Odyssey) MistwalkerSeth (Lost Odyssey) MistwalkerShu (Blue Dragon, uses the dragon for help) MistwalkerDante (DMC4) CapcomNero (DMC4) CapcomAllegretto (Eternal Sonata) Namco/Tri-CrescendoJazz (Eternal Sonata) Namco/Tri-Crescendo2 of the cooler agents from Crackdown Microsoft/Realtime WorldsBid Daddy (Bioshock, has a little sister on his back) 2K BostonFable Hero (Fable 2) Microsoft/Lionhead StudiosYuri (Tales of Vesperia) NamcoRaven (Tales of Vesperia) NamcoFlynn (Tales of Vesperia) NamcoA character from Left 4 Dead ValveI guess Prof. Pester (Viva Pinata) Microsoft/RareAltair (Assassin's Creed) UbisoftBaulder (Too Human) Microsoft/Silicon Knights DOG (Half Life 2) ValveGordan Freeman (Half Life 2) ValveAnyone else. Yes, Multi plat games are welcom! [/QUOTE]Mistwalker and Bungie, while not officially a part of Microsoft last I recall, as well as Epic Games, would probably be willing to allow characters from there games in Microsoft's Smash Bros. clone. Everyone else that isn't a part of Microsoft though would be a major problem. There are other problems including character variety (Or rather the lack of variety) seeing as a couple of these characters use conventional firearms as weapons. There's also the Smash Bros. series premise of epic matches like Mario versus Link.
[QUOTE=''Squall18''] [QUOTE=''Ninja-Hippo'']I doubt they'd include Dom as well as Fenix, as they'd fight pretty much exactly the same wouldnt they? Other than that that's a great list, and it honestly made me think of how awesome that game would be. :P How could you forget Ryu Hyabusa though?[/QUOTE]DANG ITOk,Ryu Hyabusa (Ninja Gaiden)and the Lost planet guyAnd Marcus and Dom would be like Fox and Falco, one's a bit faster, i guess. [/QUOTE]Meh they had the same build Cole was the strongest, he didn't need sleeves to be badass.
All the characters you stated will make the game totally unbalanced haha.
*imagines Marcus Fenix's final smash* lol the game would be rated M and im fine with that :)
[QUOTE=''butteman12'']*imagines Marcus Fenix's final smash* lol the game would be rated M and im fine with that :)[/QUOTE]defintely if marcus, dom and general raam are in it.
.....multiplat characters?? thread FAILS/thread

Motorstorm 2 Demo Hands On Impressions

Soooo I got a chance to download and play the Motorstorm 2 demo today and the word I would use to sum up my feelings for the game/demo would be....meh.I thought the enviroment looked amazing, too bad the vehicles looked the same as the first Motorstorm:?, and so did the damage modeling which was a bummer.Personally I hate the new camera, far to low and close and oddly enough the controls didn't feel as tight as they did in the original . I don't know how to explain it, maybe it's just an older build of the game but as of right now the first Motorstorm just played better, it just ''felt'' better. Wow PS3 owners just might have a flop on their hands very soon.PS I'll also like to add even though I wasn't too impressed with Motorstorm 2, I can easily say I had a much better time with it then I did Pure. Still not sure where that games hype is coming from....oh well. Motorstorm 2 Demo Hands On Impressions
I played it as well. Its is meh...both the first one and the second(Based on the demo) are meh.Motorstorm 2 Demo Hands On Impressions
Either M2 will flop or WINGMAN will flop for thinking it will flop ...... ohhhh which side do I choose ?
Its better than everyone else waits for the motorstorm on steroids..FUEL...
I never knew why Cows were hyping this sequel, first one wasn't good and this one wasn't looking much better.
Yeah, I was very unimpressed. The graphics are decent, but the game felt almost identical, which is upsetting for me. I'll be getting Pure over this.
pure>>>m2
[QUOTE=''BillGates_Money'']pure>>>m2[/QUOTE]

FUEL>>>> both.

Really I was looking to buy a PS3 and get this game in a few months. The 360 really doesn't have a game like Motorstorm.
[QUOTE=''PS3_3DO'']Really I was looking to buy a PS3 and get this game in a few months. The 360 really doesn't have a game like Motorstorm. [/QUOTE]Well when I say flop I don't mean like ''OMG THIS GAME TOTALLY SUCKS!!!'' I just don't think it'll live up to the AA hype that it's recieving...I can see a solid 7.5, and honestly it won't get anything less then a 7.0 because...
  1. Original Motorstorm scored a 7.9, and all it does is improve on that by adding...
  2. 4 player split screen offline
  3. 16 player online
  4. 16 maps
  5. Slightly better visuals
It just feels like it's gonna be a been there done that type of feeling for past Motorstorm players.
[QUOTE=''Nike_Air'']Either M2 will flop or WINGMAN will flop for thinking it will flop ...... ohhhh which side do I choose ? [/QUOTE]Trust me my friend I have sniffed out tons of flops in the past, choosing my side would be wise...also I hope everyone knows when I say ''FLOP'' that I don't see the game scoring in the AA zone that's all.
[QUOTE=''W1NGMAN-''][QUOTE=''PS3_3DO''] Really I was looking to buy a PS3 and get this game in a few months. The 360 really doesn't have a game like Motorstorm. [/QUOTE]Well when I say flop I don't mean like ''OMG THIS GAME TOTALLY SUCKS!!!'' I just don't think it'll live up to the AA hype that it's recieving...I can see a solid 7.5, and honestly it won't get anything less then a 7.0 because...
  1. Original Motorstorm scored a 7.9, and all it does is improve on that by adding...
  2. 4 player split screen offline
  3. 16 player online
  4. 16 maps
  5. Slightly better visuals
It just feels like it's gonna be a been there done that type of feeling for past Motorstorm players.[/QUOTE]Ok. I never played Motorstorm before so I wouldn't know the difference. Still it looks fun from the video I saw today on Gamespot. It has 16 player Online that is great.
Lame. I was looking forward to playing it for the splitscreen, but if it's just going to be a carbon copy of the original, I think I'll pass. I mean, it might be pretty good... but just not $60 good.
i played the first one...and i didnt like it, but hell im very biased when it comes to racing games
I on the other hand felt the demo was good and can't wait for the retail version. Maybe you should give it a few more trys before you cast this gem away. I also liked what I saw from the pure demo as well but to me MS2 will be of better value in the end. MS had good support after the game shipped Pure is a wild card still who knows if they will support it at all?
Based on the demo alone.......Pure>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Motorstorm 2.
Anyone watch Invisible Walls? There's a Pure v. Motorstorm segment in the latest show.They were basically saying Pure may seem more fun initially, but Motorstorm PR will last you longer. I can see that actually happening, since MS is the game with more variety.
I didn't like the first one much and don't look like much will change. Keep in mind I don't like arcade racers so others might enjoy it. GT5 please save me from this type of racing game :cry:
i loved the first Motorstorm, therefore if they keep the same formula + the new additions (more tracks, split screen) that is enough for me... Motorstorm2 is shaping up nicely and there is still time to fix the few minor problems till its release...
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']Yeah, I was very unimpressed. The graphics are decent, but the game felt almost identical, which is upsetting for me. I'll be getting Pure over this.[/QUOTE] I agree I played both demos and I prefer pure over Motorstorm. But the voice over in the Pure demo I played sucked donkeyballs. It is in dutch and sounds like a freakin disney character lolthere was no way to change it either for some reason and I downloaded it from the US marketplace too lol

lets hype this game so people know about ...

AAA-AA for me lets hype this game so people know about ...
RPG-I could care less.lets hype this game so people know about ...
I heard many good things about this game. I would say at least an 8.
floppity flop flop...lol j/ki dont really care about this game but AA..
AAA-AA.
[QUOTE=''rockguy92'']RPG-I could care less.[/QUOTE]srpg/3rd person shooter u care now?
7.5/8.0
7.0-9.0



AA-AAA
I'm playing it right now. AA.
The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that?
[QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz'']I'm playing it right now. AA.[/QUOTE]really?
Been looking forward to this for a while. It's supposed to be an incredible game. Definitely a first day buy for me.[QUOTE=''rockguy92'']RPG-I could care less.[/QUOTE]Not trying to be sarcastic or anything here, but in all honesty why do you feel the need to make snide comments on every single thread that is about an RPG or involves RPGs? I find certain genres not suited to my tastes, such as sports and shooters, but I don't go in to just insult them, let alone without even giving a reason for such constant disdain.
AA
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that? [/QUOTE]its like a painting.
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that? [/QUOTE] woah, hope it is sarcarsm
I would say AA.
[QUOTE=''Giancar''] [QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that? [/QUOTE] woah, hope it is sarcarsm [/QUOTE]No..you like this? :


Aw!..is that a picture of it or my eyesight giving out...jesus
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own''][QUOTE=''Giancar''] [QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that? [/QUOTE] woah, hope it is sarcarsm [/QUOTE]No..you like this? :
*picture*
[/QUOTE] Why what is wrong with that exactly ?
[QUOTE=''hopesfall2own''][QUOTE=''Giancar''] [QUOTE=''hopesfall2own'']The art style for this game is horrendous, hurts to look at. Why did they have to put lines across everything like that? [/QUOTE] woah, hope it is sarcarsm [/QUOTE]No..you like this? :

[/QUOTE] well that pic doesn't do any justice to the game.I've seen plenty of videos and it looks, really really good

Any old links to 6th-gen System Wars?

Im getting burnt out on arguing 7th gen crap. Anyone have any links to old SW stuff? I wanna re-live the past.Any old links to 6th-gen System Wars?
I don't think anyone but mods can access them now... :?Any old links to 6th-gen System Wars?
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_topics.php?board_id=909184995or you could visit some of the old threads in the last few pages of system wars.
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25661883
Meh.. PS2 won.
  • gas mask
  • the worst console ever (worksmanship wi ...

    the 360 obviously is the worst console ive ever owned, besides that 20 yr old new lol, particulary it scratched and cracked my gta iv ,, also gamestop is ubber trash because they do not look at the discs that they sell used lol , this copy of bully se i have has the same issues as gta iv , it will play but for only i say 20 minutes to an hour at least before giving me , please close the disc door to continue say what, lol, that has to be the most ridiculous message on the 360 , 2nd to the one that says to play this game put it in a 360 then we get the dreaded rrod, or power /hard drive failur- 1 flashing red lightred indicator on brick , lol , ya, microsoft what was your new chip supposed to do again cause appearently it is not working, ill e suprized if these 2 360s i own last a year , which is in 5 more months-feb is when i had it repaired and i bought my spare one just before hand , of this year , so ya ,. tick tock tick tock i m already having over heat issues , even when vents are clear nothing near it , live disconnects some times, like last night, playing nascar 09 all of a sudden i get taken back to the title screen thats messed up after leading 300 laps lol the worst console ever (worksmanship wi ...
    PS2 - Annoying DRE.:evil:the worst console ever (worksmanship wi ...
    until m$ fixes the 360 for good then it is gonna be the 360, but if/when they fix it, then itll be a battle between the ps2 and 360
    Guess you never owned an early PS2.
    Virtual Boy, hands down!
    [QUOTE=''foxhound_fox'']Guess you never owned an early PS2.[/QUOTE]Early PS2 DRE = XBOX 360 RROD
    I might have to go with the OG PS2. Just so many damn things were wrong with that thing and it wasn't as easy to fix as dial a number put it in a box and mail it off.PS2 problems were fixed a lot quicker then 360 though. But then again I'm also just going by my own experiences. Hell I could throw in the NES with all the cart blowing lol
    game gear6 AA batteries gets you a whopping 30 min of playing time
    the PS3 owned it for 3 weeks before i traded that complete piece of **** in
    [QUOTE=''Blackbond'']I might have to go with the OG PS2. Just so many damn things were wrong with that thing and it wasn't as easy to fix as dial a number put it in a box and mail it off.PS2 problems were fixed a lot quicker then 360 though. But then again I'm also just going by my own experiences. Hell I could throw in the NES with all the cart blowing lol[/QUOTE] I was able to do just that with my early PS2 (call and mail it). It took them a while to actually fix the system though. Like ... nearly a month. Or at least it seemed that long.
    The Xbox 360. I just hope they fix the problem soon enough, since I plan to buy one next year...
    [QUOTE=''Bebi_vegeta'']Virtual Boy, hands down![/QUOTE]My friend has a virtual boy and several games, and it's still working just fine. Not that that's surprising, most Nintendo products are practically indestructable (GC always won console smashing competitions). No, the worst built game system is definately the 360, hands down.
    That error message saying to put the game in a 360 is not on the system,it is the message that pops up when you put a 360 game in a DVD player. It sometimes plays on the 360 if the disc is scratched and the 360 reads the disc as if it were a DVD.
    I have to admit, my 360 scratched up my copy of Fifa 08 and it was the saddest day of my life.
    [QUOTE=''Tylendal''][QUOTE=''Bebi_vegeta'']Virtual Boy, hands down![/QUOTE]My friend has a virtual boy and several games, and it's still working just fine. Not that that's surprising, most Nintendo products are practically indestructable (GC always won console smashing competitions). No, the worst built game system is definately the 360, hands down.[/QUOTE]I damn, I miss readed the title...Well I think it's the NES... blowing the damn casette was such an annoyance.
    [QUOTE=''Tylendal''][QUOTE=''Bebi_vegeta'']Virtual Boy, hands down![/QUOTE]My friend has a virtual boy and several games, and it's still working just fine. Not that that's surprising, most Nintendo products are practically indestructable (GC always won console smashing competitions). No, the worst built game system is definately the 360, hands down.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it can last forever (which is quite sad, really), but it causes severe headache. Also it almost impossible to play comfortable with that thing. So my vote goes to VB.
    DS Lite Hinge Crack+Stickers for serial numbers=:([QUOTE=''Ilived'']I have to admit, my 360 scratched up my copy of Fifa 08 and it was the saddest day of my life.[/QUOTE] Super cereal?
    [QUOTE=''hakanakumono'']Early PS2 DRE = XBOX 360 RROD [/QUOTE]
    Not in the least. It took a cIass-action lawsuit to get Sony to get moving on remedying the issue and even then they didn't give a three-year warranty with free repairs... they just paid out to those who filed the suit and then told everyone else ''tough ****, pay to get it fixed or get a new one.''
    Well, I had Sega Mega Drive II, PS1, PS2 and now PS3. I did not have problems with any of these consoles
    I have never had a problem with a console up until the 360.Right now its coming back from its holiday in Germany... So yeah, my vote goes to the 360. I want it to come back thoguh as I got mercinaries 2 (didnt listen to reviews, gettin it anyways :P)

    Killzone 2 Beta coming in autumn ^_^

    ClickLets see how it turns out,mabey it will get an 8.5 after all..Killzone 2 Beta coming in autumn ^_^
    Cool, I'm enjoying the R2 Beta, and getting ready for SOCOM's Beta.Hopefully, the Sony gods will send down this mana as well. Killzone 2 Beta coming in autumn ^_^
    Can we do it without paying? Because thats what Qore is for and I'm not for Qore.
    [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
    [QUOTE=''Cedmln'']Can we do it without paying? Because thats what Qore is for and I'm not for Qore.[/QUOTE] Hopefully, but you know you could always buy just that ONE episode. I got in the R2 Beta, just by using Insomniac's forums and being an Underground member since the PSOne days.SOCOM, you could preorder from GS and get a code. There's other ways.
    [QUOTE=''Ace132''][QUOTE=''Cedmln'']Can we do it without paying? Because thats what Qore is for and I'm not for Qore.[/QUOTE]im not sure,i think qore has payment like XBL i think
    [/QUOTE] Wha? IF you're not sure, why answer?I don't understand your post, so I will just explain it.You can SUBSCRIBE to Core, like a magazine, for one year OR you can buy ONE ISSUE, also like a magazine. One issue, I believe is $3. Magazines in Stores are usually $5-$10. With CORE you get exclusive Online stuff, but if you don't want it, do go into the PS STore and buy it. It's rather simple, really.IT's not like XBL at all.Think of it like a Magazine. Do you have a PS3?
    for Qore only? If so, **** that ****
    An open beta would be very much welcome. I want to get my hands on this game very badly.
    This is probably going to be just like every other beta Sony has. Pre-order the game, get in the beta, buy Qore, get in the beta. Or if you subscribe to PlayStation: The Official Magazine - which I got for free - they give you a code in every issue to download Qore for free.
    [QUOTE=''lantus'']This is probably going to be just like every other beta Sony has. Pre-order the game, get in the beta, buy Qore, get in the beta. Or if you subscribe to PlayStation: The Official Magazine - which I got for free - they give you a code in every issue to download Qore for free.[/QUOTE]If you get in with one issue of Qore, it might be the only time I get one.
    [QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose''][QUOTE=''lantus'']This is probably going to be just like every other beta Sony has. Pre-order the game, get in the beta, buy Qore, get in the beta. Or if you subscribe to PlayStation: The Official Magazine - which I got for free - they give you a code in every issue to download Qore for free.[/QUOTE]If you get in with one issue of Qore, it might be the only time I get one.[/QUOTE] That seems to be the trend, you don't have to be an annual subscriber to get in betas, you can buy individual episodes each month and get in them, it's just cheaper to by an annual subscription, if you plan to be involved with Qore so much.
    Hopefully it comes soon, I need to play this game :)
    I'm not ever spending a dime on Qore again. aside from the demos or betas the content is absoutely worthless and the betas aren't even active when you purchase the episode anyway. Qore is lame.
    Why, I don't think I've heard someone use 'Autum' in real life in....a decade.Kudos.
    Finally, but Qore is annoying, and i really want to validate my predictions on this game.
    OMG How do i sign up. Whats this Qore business?
    [QUOTE=''pseudocaesar'']OMG How do i sign up. Whats this Qore business?[/QUOTE]It's a PSN download video magazine that offers betas and demos that are never available when you download it and usesless puff pieces on upcoming Sony titles.SAVE YOUR CASH. I just found out that the Socom demo is for annual subscribers only, Something they neglected to mention when I bought the first issue 3 months ago. I wonder how they are going to screw the single issue buyers on the resistance beta?
    I will NOT support qore no matter what these issues come with. Paying $3 to get into a beta or play a demo? Plus the behind the scene videos end up on youtube anyways. Something tells me this is just sony testing out the waters for some premium service.
    How timely, it's only been 41 months since we saw the trailer at E3 2005. Congrats on your punctualessedness....
    [QUOTE=''Dreams-Visions'']Why, I don't think I've heard someone use 'Autum' in real life in....a decade.[/QUOTE]

    From this point forward I declare that all SW users must use the word ''Autumn'' instead of ''Fall''!

    $199 for an HD gaming console? Can it b ...

    Imagine, for only $199 you can buy a system that plays games like Halo 3, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, Gears of War 2, Tales of Vesperia, PGR4, Mass Effect, Viva Pinata, Geometry Wars 2, Castle Crashers, Ninja Gaiden 2, and more!If you consider yourself a gamer, you can't deny that is one awesome deal. But why stop there? What if for $199 you also get access to the world's most feature rich %26 largest online console community? What if you also want to play the best versions of the best multiplatform console games? For $199 you are getting:Xbox 360 Arcade Console
    Wireless Controller
    Memory Card
    Arcade Games
    PAC-MAN Championship Edition
    UNO
    Luxor 2
    Boom Boom Rocket
    Feeding FrenzyWhile you are at it, why not pick up a used copy of Gears, Halo 3, Bioshock, etc while you are waiting for the October %26 November releases?$199 for an HD gaming console? Can it b ...
    No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.$199 for an HD gaming console? Can it b ...
    [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE] Completely untrue. I have 2 systems, A core %26 a premium and I've played the same games on both with no difference whatsoever with the exception of Oblivion, and thats an extremely minor improvement in their poor streaming implementation. GTAIV streams fine right off the DVD.
    [QUOTE=''WillieBeamish''] [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE] Completely untrue. I have 2 systems, A core %26 a premium and I've played the same games on both with no difference whatsoever with the exception of Oblivion, and thats an extremely minor improvement in their poor streaming implementation. GTAIV streams fine right off the DVD.[/QUOTE] typical cow banter
    It makes you wonder how long will it take for the other HD gaming console to have the same price. Never.
    [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE]Does the Wii have a HDD?Is it a failure.What about the PS2?
    [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE]not everyone needs a harddrive.i mean if all your going to do is save your games and such its fine
    [QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] It makes you wonder how long will it take for the other HD gaming console to have the same price. Never. [/QUOTE] Sony gaming would go bankrupt if they reduce the price now.
    [QUOTE=''-Ninja_Dog-'']Does the Wii have a HDD?Is it a failure.What about the PS2?[/QUOTE] yeah, but this is a next gen console. :roll:
    Plus 299 usd is the magic number too.And thats not gimp.
    [QUOTE=''Jamex1987''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] It makes you wonder how long will it take for the other HD gaming console to have the same price. Never.[/QUOTE] Sony gaming would go bankrupt if they reduce the price now.[/QUOTE] Yep. I read a report that Sony's gaming division will never make a profit with the PS3 this entire generation.
    [QUOTE=''Jamex1987''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] It makes you wonder how long will it take for the other HD gaming console to have the same price. Never. [/QUOTE] Sony gaming would go bankrupt if they reduce the price now.[/QUOTE] 199 HD gaming console. Wow thats a good way to describe it. Microsoft will sell more than PS3 this holiday, worldwide is a possibility for the holiday season.
    [QUOTE=''Hewkii''][QUOTE=''-Ninja_Dog-''] Does the Wii have a HDD?Is it a failure.What about the PS2?[/QUOTE] yeah, but this is a next gen console. :roll: [/QUOTE] What is the Wii? Last gen? I got one of these $200 consoles and got a hard drive for $30.00. I can't complain.
    [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE] Why shouldn't it exist? I can play COD4, Orange Box, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, %26 GTAIV right now on my core system and those games will run better than an 80GB PS3, and that's a fact. The only reason it shouldn't exist is because it shows how much of an overpriced, overengineered steaming pile that the PS3 really is.
    [QUOTE=''Hewkii''][QUOTE=''-Ninja_Dog-''] Does the Wii have a HDD?Is it a failure.What about the PS2?[/QUOTE] yeah, but this is a next gen console. :roll: [/QUOTE]So the Xbox is a next gen console because it had a HDD.So we agree the Wii is crap.
    [QUOTE=''WillieBeamish''] Imagine, for only $199 you can buy a system that plays games like Halo 3, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, Gears of War 2, Tales of Vesperia, PGR4, Mass Effect, Viva Pinata, Geometry Wars 2, Castle Crashers, Ninja Gaiden 2, and more!If you consider yourself a gamer, you can't deny that is one awesome deal. But why stop there? What if for $199 you also get access to the world's most feature rich %26 largest online console community? What if you also want to play the best versions of the best multiplatform console games? For $199 you are getting:Xbox 360 Arcade Console
    Wireless Controller
    Memory Card
    Arcade Games
    PAC-MAN Championship Edition
    UNO
    Luxor 2
    Boom Boom Rocket
    Feeding FrenzyWhile you are at it, why not pick up a used copy of Gears, Halo 3, Bioshock, etc while you are waiting for the October %26 November releases?[/QUOTE] I spend money like this, and I know there are alot of me type guys out there as well.
    [QUOTE=''karasill'']No hard drive = fail. Some games benifit greatly with the hard drive when it comes to loading times and even framerates to a lesser extent. It may be cheaper then the Wii but for $199 you're getting a gimped Xbox 360 that shouldn't have existed in the first place.[/QUOTE]Your response fails because no current game on the 360 requires you to install it on the hardrive in order to play. The same game running on a 360 with or without a hardrive has the same load times.
    [QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']It makes you wonder how long will it take for the other HD gaming console to have the same price. Never.[/QUOTE]It won't be that low anytime soon because you aren't only paying for a videgame console, you are paying for a Bluray player. Don't get me wrong, I love the 360, but instead of making this HDD free system 199, they should have discontinued it. Instead they decide to discontinue the 20gb system. The 20Gb system should be the minimum system with the 199 price tag and keep the 60gb 299 and the elite 120gb 399.
    Epic Win for this thread. It brings all the haters into submission.
    A xbox360 can't reach it full potential without a hdd but whatever.The pricedrop is only 50 dollars not that big of a deal.

    Calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer is like ...

    Why do cows keep on hyping this game.  It's obviously crap, and probably always will be.  I'll admit the trailers do look good, but making a good game is completely different from making a good game trailer.

    A few other points.

    If a game is being previewed it will never be shown in a negative manner.  It's is a rule of game journalism that you never say something negative about a game that isn't released.

    Screen shots do not give a accurate portrayal of actual graphics.  Expect screen shots to show the best possible situation and hide all the negative aspects of a game.  Some developers even create special screenshot textures, and engines to make a game look way better then it ever will once it is released.  (gameplay movies also tend to follow this pattern)


    Calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer is like ...
    I know it's so dumb!Calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer is like ...
    Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...
    ''If a game is being previewed it will never be shown in a negative manner. It's is a rule of game journalism that you never say something negative about a game that isn't released.''



    you know what? im very glad you said this...did anyone else notice how postive ign's preview of oblivion was compared to others?
    Who called Killzone 2 a Halo killer?



    That dream died after Killzone's first review.



    The game is hyped because of the trailer, of course. But not as much as lemmings would have you believe. Lemmings love to resurrect old hype to prove some kind of ridiculous point.
    [QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]

    Only if Molyneux [b]finally[/b] implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely).



    Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.
    [QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]



    please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as ''the best RPG ever'' by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.
    And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...
    [QUOTE=''Hoffgod'']And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...[/QUOTE] An endless Cycle.
    [QUOTE=''Hoffgod'']And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...[/QUOTE]

    :lol:  Good point, but that's the cows for you.

    i know that there are alot of jokes about killzone 2. I am not excited about it either. HOwever, I hope they take this doubt and turn it into productivity and motivation to surprise us.
    [QUOTE=''tonemd_basic'']Who called Killzone 2 a Halo killer?



    That dream died after Killzone's first review.



    The game is hyped because of the trailer, of course. But not as much as lemmings would have you believe. Lemmings love to resurrect old hype to prove some kind of ridiculous point.[/QUOTE]

    Umm I'm looking at your sig and I see Spawn. Where can I get that spawn. The only Spawn I found was this tiny one from the SNES game. That game was good but he sucked in MUGEN.
    [QUOTE=''Hoffgod'']And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...[/QUOTE]

    everyone laughs at anyone hyping sonic, have you played any of the last 40 failures. Killzone wasnt bad, it just was not halo good.
    Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg?
    [QUOTE=''xLegend24'']Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg? [/QUOTE]

    ...actually, I don't know.
    [QUOTE=''lawlessx''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]



    please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as ''the best RPG ever'' by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=''magus-21''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]

    Only if Molyneux [b]finally[/b] implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely).



    Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.[/QUOTE]

    Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...
    [QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]

    I own a 360 and even I know thats false.
    [QUOTE=''Spartan070''][QUOTE=''lawlessx''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]



    please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as ''the best RPG ever'' by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=''magus-21''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]

    Only if Molyneux [b]finally[/b] implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely).



    Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.[/QUOTE]

    Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...[/QUOTE]



    im not saying it was a bad game..just that i couldn't understand the hype it was getting even after news released about the game missing alot of features promised.
    [QUOTE=''Hewkii''][QUOTE=''xLegend24'']Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg? [/QUOTE] ...actually, I don't know.[/QUOTE] Yes, but there's no time to rest between inputting actions, basically, expect the fastest turn based battles ever.  Versus 13 on the other hand is real time like Kingdom Hearts.
    [QUOTE=''Spartan070''][QUOTE=''lawlessx''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]



    please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as ''the best RPG ever'' by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=''magus-21''][QUOTE=''Spartan070'']Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...[/QUOTE]

    Only if Molyneux [b]finally[/b] implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely).



    Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.[/QUOTE]

    Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...[/QUOTE]



    It averaged an AA at Gamerankings actually.



    The hype did hurt it a lot, and it was a good game, but it wasn't anything sensational. It had major problems which had nothing to do with the hype; it was far too linear and short and the levelling system had quite a few flaws in promoting pure specialisation and being complex.



    Most of that has nothing to do with the hype of features like child raising and other roaming heroes whom you compete with that was originally planned.

    Oblivion abilities lost.

    I have been playing oblivion for a while and my main character is an argonian, and for some reason i have lost all the abilities that i should have with that race. So i dont have resistance to poison or disease anymore and i cant breathe underwater. Does anyone know why or how this happened and if you do is it possible to get them back. cheers.Oblivion abilities lost.
    Note it's resistance to those diseases, not immune so it's still possible to get poisoned, as for breathing underwater...Did you maybe change your class without knowing it?Oblivion abilities lost.
    Check to see if any other abilities aren't affecting any others.

    Kirby Superstar Ultra (DS) New screens!

    ''Kirby Super Star Ultra for Nintendo DS re-imagines one of the most beloved Kirby games of all time. Kirby Super Star Ultra features new graphics and fully rendered animated cut scenes. With so many adventures waiting to be unlocked, there will never be a dull moment as Kirby runs, floats, copies enemies and uses Helpers to fight King Dedede and Meta Knight. On top of the main modes, there are also three new touch-screen-controlled mini-games that can be played with up to three friends via DS Download Play. Not only that, but players can go on Kirby adventures with a friend via local wireless as well.''Hyped! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327429 Kirby Superstar Ultra (DS) New screens!
    hell yeah!Never got a chance to play in on the SNES.Kirby Superstar Ultra (DS) New screens!
    Awesome, now one question; why didn't they show this game yesterday on their conference?
    And the DS library keeps getting bigger and better....
    [QUOTE=''splinter-OP'']Awesome, now one question; why didn't they show this game yesterday on their conference?[/QUOTE] Simple. The conference was for retailers, shareholders, and industry execs. This probably won't be as big a seller as the other titles they mentioned.Still, can't wait for this game, I've been dissipointed that I never got to play it on the SNES.
    I'm so excited for this game!
    now theyve got this and chrono trigger..remake super mario rpg please!
    !YEAH! I have been waiting forever for the next real Kirby game!
    I got a $5 off coupon for this game. In your face TC :D
    Meh, even if I did like Nightmare in Dreamland, I pass this one.
    im gonna play the crap out of that game
    Nice. I've played the original before, but I've had the worst of luck with it. First time, I rented it, but never got the chance to finish it. I don't know why I didn't buy it then... :? But then a few years ago (a couple years before the Wii came out), I bought it, played it for a while, and loved it, but then before I played through the whole game, by SNES died. :( I don't have a DS, but I do plan to get one eventually, and when I do, I'll be sure to pick this one up.
    [QUOTE=''air_wolf_cubed'']I got a $5 off coupon for this game. In your face TC :D[/QUOTE]where'd you get it???
    [QUOTE=''gamer6464''] [QUOTE=''air_wolf_cubed'']I got a $5 off coupon for this game. In your face TC :D[/QUOTE]where'd you get it???[/QUOTE] Gamestop sent mine in the mail.
  • gas mask
  • Is there a better/dumber developer than ...

    The makers of Burnout Paradise. They released a game that got AAA here, and scored very well on most sites. Since then, theyve released many free updates, culminating with next weeks big update of bikes, day/night cycle and weather effects. Although this company needs to be applauded as probably the most user friendly and generous game developer ive ever seen, you cant help but think why they didnt just release a new game this January with all these updates?Burnout Paradise was a great game when it came out, with a lot of replay value but they just keep adding and adding, and all for free. Theyve even discussed adding big rigs, planes and a new island to play on, all presumably free. Are they mad? Is there a better/dumber developer than ...
    Well. its probably a marketing technique, since they are releasing a PC version with a map editor aswell, its probably to make it seem like its still worth buying so late.I thought Microsoft didnt allow free content on XBOX live? Is there a better/dumber developer than ...
    Both Blizzard and Valve release free content frequently (and a lot more than criterion)...but still I have to applaud what they are doing, not many Console developers give away free DLC.
    It's no different than what some PC game developers do.
    Bravo for Criterion . eat that Gears of war , halo 3, COD4, GTA4 for charging people for so little content !!!
    What can you say they are a great bunch of guys... obviously they want us to enjoy their games as much as possible, rather than look to line their pockets at every opportunity.
    [QUOTE=''PC360Wii'']I thought Microsoft didnt allow free content on XBOX live? [/QUOTE]Not true at all; where did you hear that?
    yes. there absolutely, completly mad and i bow to them. devs like that, providing lots of support and polishing up the game well after the games release, are few and far between. blizzard, valve, criterion, bungie (still making MP maps for halo 3..though there not free thank u MS.), epic (though not as much anymore) and CDProjekt Red are the only devs i can think of that provide that kind of support. oh and stardock (big new patch for sins available soon ish....graphics upgrades, performance enhancements and such like).
    I hope it becomes the norm. I don't think it always needs to be free, but I like that they are fully supporting the product well past its release date. There are alot of games that I have where i'd be willing to buy more content or that have pretty blatant errors that could probably be fixed via patches, but the developers aren't supporting the game after its release so i'm kinda left out there.
    Its even more surprising that they didn't release a second version of Burnout Paradise when you remember that they're owned by EA. Cause EA is you know... evil and stuff.

    Play Magazine- ''SWFU best Star Wars ...

    (you might have known this....idk!)That is basically a direct quote from Play magazine. They said that star wars force unleashed beats all of the previous star wars games with both amazing gameplay and controls. i am not sure i can completely agree with them (cus i have played some really sweet sw games!) but still it got my hopes up to read their review. and the reviewer said, even if it wasnt star wars, it would still be AAA. i read their review today. i am not quite sure tho if what they say is beleivable. i am most positive, tho, that it will never be the best sw game. what do you think?Play Magazine- ''SWFU best Star Wars ...
    I still see gamespot giving it 7.5, but it will likely still be fun. Play Magazine- ''SWFU best Star Wars ...
    Well, I'm not going to blast the game before I actually played it. I only played the PS3 Demo, and the 360 Demo.I think based on what I played KOTOR, Jedi Knight, Dark Forces, and Tie Fighter were better, but we shall see.
    [QUOTE=''ms555''] i read their review today. it helped me get my mind off of that 7.5 score gamepro gave it. what do you think?[/QUOTE] Ok now go read every other review.
    KOTOR
    I'm waiting for more online sources, mainly IGN, GS, and GT.
    Play gave Sonic 06 a 8.5 and F-zero GX a 6. I wouldn't really truse any of their reviews
    I really have to play it for myself and see. I dont think its purchase worthy, just a rental.
    [QUOTE=''xXMcClaneXx''] KOTOR [/QUOTE] that was an excellent game... the play magazine guy thought that KOTOR was too long but STFU was just right. see that is something i can not probably agree on !
    Kotor and jedi knight 2?who the hell is play ... and wth a game too long= bad? because a 60$ 8 hours game is better?
    Not the best but it will do well. Sometimes you gotta ignore the reviews.
    Just to let you know they were the ones that gave Lair 9/10.
    [QUOTE=''ms555''][QUOTE=''xXMcClaneXx''] KOTOR[/QUOTE] that was an excellent game... the play magazine guy thought that KOTOR was too long but STFU was just right. see that is something i can not probably agree on ![/QUOTE]kotor too long...wow.....how can you enjoy video games and say something like that
    Whatever Play magazine says and does, say and do the complete opposite.
    it really REALLY wont get AAA
    I honestly thought, gameplay-wise, that SW:TFU was alright.What I don't like about the game was Darth Vader's secret apprentice, and demonstrating his ability to bring down an entire Imperial Starship just like that. He's like the only high profile character to do so. Not even Vader did that.
    [QUOTE=''air_wolf_cubed'']it really REALLY wont get AAA[/QUOTE] sadly, that is what im thinking! MAN, this game was hyped up too much. now im bummed out. i promised myself not to get caught in the hype before. lol
    They think it was better than KoToR?Not to self: Ignore Play magazine from now on.
    Most monoric thing I've ever heard from a gaming magazine. There's no question now - Play Magazine has be on the take.

    Rogue Squadron
    Rogue Squadron II
    X-Wing
    Tie Fighter
    X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter
    X-Wing Alliance
    KOTOR
    KOTOR II
    Battlefront
    Battlefront II

    If they seriously think this game is better than all of those, then they're screwed in the head. But like I said, they're most likely getting paid off. Their track record for overrating games is undeniable. They have less credibility than Gamepro.
    I cant play it for one reason. I hate how he holds the light sabre. Its retarded, whatever happened to stick with what works. I hate when trying to be unique gets taken too far. Seriously annoys me enough to make me not play it lol.

    Atmosphir=I don't need little big planet ...

    I don't need little big planet anymore.,muhahahahaha.http://atmosphir.com/ Atmosphir=I don't need little big planet ...
    [QUOTE=''Cbot''] I don't need little big planet anymore.,muhahahahaha. http://atmosphir.com/ [/QUOTE] okAtmosphir=I don't need little big planet ...
    but but teh sackboyz!
    Much more interesting, in web browser, multiplayer, 3D sandbox game- wth full physics and great visuals was demo'd at my uni. This is stuff that will ultra pogressive in the field of User Generated Content.
    lbp has physics, interface is much better. LBP pwns this by miles.
    [QUOTE=''King_Dodongo'']but but teh sackboyz![/QUOTE]WE need teh sackboyz or else it's fail;)
    [QUOTE=''Cbot''] I don't need little big planet anymore.,muhahahahaha. http://atmosphir.com/ [/QUOTE] Your call, bro.
    Please, like you wanted to get LBP in the first place. :roll:
    The early 90's called and want their graphics back.I seriously hope you werent really comparing this to LPB. This may be fun, but is nowhere near on par with LBP.
    [QUOTE=''verbtex'']Please, like you wanted to get LBP in the first place. :roll:[/QUOTE]exactly, only few people will buy lpb
    I love the way the kid runs. :DAnyway, I see no reason not to give this a go, seeing as it's free and all.It does look like you can get pretty creative with this.
    [QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace''][QUOTE=''verbtex'']Please, like you wanted to get LBP in the first place. :roll:[/QUOTE]exactly, only few people will buy lpb [/QUOTE]Oh please, like you're one to talk.You go over and say that VGcharts is inaccurate, and then you use it in your later posts.You're obviously a huge fanboy, calling Halo 3 superior to every other game out there.You know what, it may have sold well, and scored well, but it wasn't for me, which is why I enjoyed other games better.And besides, how do you know the future any better than me, considering you have your fanboy goggles on.
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    Looks aight. Kinda weak in the graphics and doesnt seem to have the diversity of design or puzzles or LBP. However theres no rule that you can have/like both
    [QUOTE=''Dilrod'']The early 90's called and want their graphics back.I seriously hope you werent really comparing this to LPB. This may be fun, but is nowhere near on par with LBP. [/QUOTE]it's all about graphics? you can pay 60 bucks for a bunch of textures we've seen before, and hopefully that will take your mind away from the fact that making levels on this game will be infinitely easier than using a ps3 pad to create stuff.
    [QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace'']what's up, fanboy? I am only telling u that this game won't sell well, are u mad because of it? dont cry, or r u saying it will sell like H3? lololololololololol [/QUOTE]I am not claiming that it will sell like Halo3.I'm not crying.I'm not mad.And I'm definently not a fanboy.But even then. Youre the one claiming ownage all the time over every game. You say that Halo 3 is better than every other game out there in your posting history. Its easy to access that. However, that statement that you made, doesn't have much credibility.
    [QUOTE=''verbtex''][QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace'']what's up, fanboy? I am only telling u that this game won't sell well, are u mad because of it? dont cry, or r u saying it will sell like H3? lololololololololol [/QUOTE]I am not claiming that it will sell like Halo3.I'm not crying.I'm not mad.And I'm definently not a fanboy.But even then. Youre the one claiming ownage all the time over every game. You say that Halo 3 is better than every other game out there in your posting history. Its easy to access that. However, that statement that you made, doesn't have much credibility. [/QUOTE]What? No, never said that. Have I even said that I like Halo 3??? It's just a good-seller. And this may be fact: Halo 3's Day 1 Sales may kill LBP's Lifetime Sales.
    [QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace''][QUOTE=''verbtex''][QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace''][QUOTE=''verbtex'']Please, like you wanted to get LBP in the first place. :roll:[/QUOTE]exactly, only few people will buy lpb [/QUOTE]Oh please, like you're one to talk.You go over and say that VGcharts is inaccurate, and then you use it in your later posts.You're obviously a huge fanboy, calling Halo 3 superior to every other game out there.You know what, it may have sold well, and scored well, but it wasn't for me, which is why I enjoyed other games better.And besides, how do you know the future any better than me, considering you have your fanboy goggles on. [/QUOTE]what's up, fanboy? I am only telling u that this game won't sell well, are u mad because of it? dont cry, or r u saying it will sell like H3? lololololololololol [/QUOTE] You're awful. Seriously, grow the hell up :|
    [QUOTE=''jonnyt61''][QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace''][QUOTE=''verbtex''][QUOTE=''WhenTheTwoFace''][QUOTE=''verbtex'']Please, like you wanted to get LBP in the first place. :roll:[/QUOTE]exactly, only few people will buy lpb [/QUOTE]Oh please, like you're one to talk.You go over and say that VGcharts is inaccurate, and then you use it in your later posts.You're obviously a huge fanboy, calling Halo 3 superior to every other game out there.You know what, it may have sold well, and scored well, but it wasn't for me, which is why I enjoyed other games better.And besides, how do you know the future any better than me, considering you have your fanboy goggles on. [/QUOTE]what's up, fanboy? I am only telling u that this game won't sell well, are u mad because of it? dont cry, or r u saying it will sell like H3? lololololololololol [/QUOTE] You're awful. Seriously, grow the hell up :| [/QUOTE]?
    Awesome smack on graphics, bro. I still want to get LBP.

    How can gamers not appreciate MS efforts ...

    Seriously now, give credit were credit is due, Microsoft continues to do poorly in ''The Land of the Rising Sun'' but maintain course and plug ahead.  Gaining more support from Japanese developers like Capcom, Tecmo, Treasure, etc.  They have helped establish a new development house by funding Mistwalker's projects.  MS is trying to pave the way with new IP's like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Blue Dragon 2 pending, Eternal Sonata, etc.  I think it shows great committment to continue to support a region for 6 years now that continues to give you no love, simply based of the fact that the region is the supposed video game epicenter (arguable, its more like preception they are the leaders).  Posters constantly ask me why I support the Xbox platform and I point to all the effort Microsoft is putting into the industry.  This effort is almost the direct opposite of what I see in Sony.  What I see in Sony is an industry leader who has become fat from sales and who's ego has run out of control.  Honestly, making fans wait a year to launch their new system simply because they are more concerned with a Blu-ray format, instead of their true bread and butter, which has been their games division, then it arrives at an overblown retail price for a console, shunting many of its fans that can't support the associated costs.  Look at Sony's effort with the controller.  Fans made fun of the Boomarang, but turns out it would have been better than what comes with PS3.  Sony listened to its fans, but instead of redesigning a new controller, they go lazy and use the same design as the last 10 years, slap on a X360 dashboard button and partial sensor control ala Wiimote and pawn it off as a new controller.I don't see Sony upstarting new development houses or all that many new IP's and I am seeing a laziness in securing exclusive titles for their brand.Of course others can disagree or have different perspectives of what they see and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I just like the efforts of Microsoft and I appreciate what they are doing.How can gamers not appreciate MS efforts ...
    [This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]How can gamers not appreciate MS efforts ...
    I've always backed microsoft. And now with the xbox 360 i love them even more
    I give their limitless pocketbooks the credit.


    I'm not sure how much credit I'll give Microsoft, outside of their XBOX department (whatever it's called... M$GU). But they did a heck of a job with the 360. No doubt about that. It's the first console I've bought when it was current since the SNES!
    I completely agree with you Dan. *Salutes MS Flag on my wall*
    I love MS for the 360. But I fear I may hate them if they ever dominate the market. Just look at the Vista pricing...
    [QUOTE=''Shazenab'']I love MS for the 360. But I fear I may hate them if they ever dominate the market. Just look at the Vista pricing...[/QUOTE] I bought ME for $200 and XP for $200... I got XP again for OEM for $100... Vista is no different.Where do you think they get their money from to fund the production of multi billion dollar operating systems?It wont take them long to recoup their loss... But there going to be starting a whole other operating system again. So the cycle continues.
    [QUOTE=''Shazenab'']I love MS for the 360. But I fear I may hate them if they ever dominate the market. Just look at the Vista pricing...[/QUOTE]



    My sentiments exactly. That is why I want the 360 to succeed, but I don't want the ps3 to crash and burn like it is right now....
    Would you buy an expensive console that really doesn't go above and beyond the other consoles with the genre that interests you? Obviously not, quit whining about how the Japanese culture is different from ours and accept the fact that Microsoft tried but didn't try hard enough.
    They certainly have been putting in effort to develop and secure new IPs and titles.  I give them credit there.  They've made huge strides in creating a more diverse and enjoyable game library, and it shows.  2007 looks to be a great year for 360 owners.
    Having 24 RPG, many JRPG's, 3 strategy games, all new IP's, and adventures that kill like Alan Wake, makes it a surprise comparing to xbox that had only 4 PC rpg's and one of its own, no JRPG's, no adventures that kill etc etcBest news are that it retains it PC games ports and wrpg's, making a PC totally obsolete for some more yearsOverall a wonder of a console, never have i seen such a game value in any console before
    [QUOTE=''Danthegamingman'']Seriously now, give credit were credit is due, Microsoft continues to do poorly in ''The Land of the Rising Sun'' but maintain course and plug ahead. Gaining more support from Japanese developers like Capcom, Tecmo, Treasure, etc. They have helped establish a new development house by funding Mistwalker's projects. MS is trying to pave the way with new IP's like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Blue Dragon 2 pending, Eternal Sonata, etc. I think it shows great committment to continue to support a region for 6 years now that continues to give you no love, simply based of the fact that the region is the supposed video game epicenter (arguable, its more like preception they are the leaders). Posters constantly ask me why I support the Xbox platform and I point to all the effort Microsoft is putting into the industry. This effort is almost the direct opposite of what I see in Sony. What I see in Sony is an industry leader who has become fat from sales and who's ego has run out of control. Honestly, making fans wait a year to launch their new system simply because they are more concerned with a Blu-ray format, instead of their true bread and butter, which has been their games division, then it arrives at an overblown retail price for a console, shunting many of its fans that can't support the associated costs. Look at Sony's effort with the controller. Fans made fun of the Boomarang, but turns out it would have been better than what comes with PS3. Sony listened to its fans, but instead of redesigning a new controller, they go lazy and use the same design as the last 10 years, slap on a X360 dashboard button and partial sensor control ala Wiimote and pawn it off as a new controller.I don't see Sony upstarting new development houses or all that many new IP's and I am seeing a laziness in securing exclusive titles for their brand.Of course others can disagree or have different perspectives of what they see and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I just like the efforts of Microsoft and I appreciate what they are doing.[/QUOTE]

    I agree 110%! Good Read.
    [QUOTE=''TheCrazed420''][QUOTE=''Shazenab'']I love MS for the 360. But I fear I may hate them if they ever dominate the market. Just look at the Vista pricing...[/QUOTE]



    My sentiments exactly. That is why I want the 360 to succeed, but I don't want the ps3 to crash and burn like it is right now....[/QUOTE]

    This is just my opinion, but I would much rather have a market with Nintendo and Microsoft, than a market with Sony and Microsoft. The problem with this is, Ninendo is not doing too well, the Wii has been almost completley sidetracked, it did very well at launch, but in the weeks following, the craze for the Wii died down, if Nintendo doesn't pull off a success this time around, that's three failures. Three strikes and you're out Nintendo.

    They doing a much better job than they did with the original Xbox as far as games go.I've never been a fan of MS and the way they do business but I'm enjoying my 360 way more than I did my Xbox.So yeah,I'll give them their due.



    Just hope they dont end up dominating console gaming to the extent that they do with their OS.
    [QUOTE=''Danthegamingman'']Seriously now, give credit were credit is due, Microsoft continues to do poorly in ''The Land of the Rising Sun'' but maintain course and plug ahead.  Gaining more support from Japanese developers like Capcom, Tecmo, Treasure, etc.  They have helped establish a new development house by funding Mistwalker's projects.  MS is trying to pave the way with new IP's like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Blue Dragon 2 pending, Eternal Sonata, etc.  I think it shows great committment to continue to support a region for 6 years now that continues to give you no love, simply based of the fact that the region is the supposed video game epicenter (arguable, its more like preception they are the leaders).  Posters constantly ask me why I support the Xbox platform and I point to all the effort Microsoft is putting into the industry.  This effort is almost the direct opposite of what I see in Sony.  What I see in Sony is an industry leader who has become fat from sales and who's ego has run out of control.  Honestly, making fans wait a year to launch their new system simply because they are more concerned with a Blu-ray format, instead of their true bread and butter, which has been their games division, then it arrives at an overblown retail price for a console, shunting many of its fans that can't support the associated costs.  Look at Sony's effort with the controller.  Fans made fun of the Boomarang, but turns out it would have been better than what comes with PS3.  Sony listened to its fans, but instead of redesigning a new controller, they go lazy and use the same design as the last 10 years, slap on a X360 dashboard button and partial sensor control ala Wiimote and pawn it off as a new controller.I don't see Sony upstarting new development houses or all that many new IP's and I am seeing a laziness in securing exclusive titles for their brand.Of course others can disagree or have different perspectives of what they see and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I just like the efforts of Microsoft and I appreciate what they are doing.[/QUOTE] im a cow and i like it, but why should i be open about it if lemmings won't even bother saying anything good about ps3. And dont say '' its because theres nothing good about it'' because thats a lie.
    There are several 360 titles that are exclusive to Japan, they are making effort at least.
    [QUOTE=''avenger_dot'']Having 24 RPG, many JRPG's, 3 strategy games, all new IP's, and adventures that kill like Alan Wake, makes it a surprise comparing to xbox that had only 4 PC rpg's and one of its own, no JRPG's, no adventures that kill etc etcBest news are that it retains it PC games ports and wrpg's, making a PC totally obsolete for some more yearsOverall a wonder of a console, never have i seen such a game value in any console before[/QUOTE]

    someone wasn't old enough to own a ps2 or PSX :|

    [QUOTE=''alex1889''][QUOTE=''Danthegamingman'']Seriously now, give credit were credit is due, Microsoft continues to do poorly in ''The Land of the Rising Sun'' but maintain course and plug ahead.  Gaining more support from Japanese developers like Capcom, Tecmo, Treasure, etc.  They have helped establish a new development house by funding Mistwalker's projects.  MS is trying to pave the way with new IP's like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Blue Dragon 2 pending, Eternal Sonata, etc.  I think it shows great committment to continue to support a region for 6 years now that continues to give you no love, simply based of the fact that the region is the supposed video game epicenter (arguable, its more like preception they are the leaders).  Posters constantly ask me why I support the Xbox platform and I point to all the effort Microsoft is putting into the industry.  This effort is almost the direct opposite of what I see in Sony.  What I see in Sony is an industry leader who has become fat from sales and who's ego has run out of control.  Honestly, making fans wait a year to launch their new system simply because they are more concerned with a Blu-ray format, instead of their true bread and butter, which has been their games division, then it arrives at an overblown retail price for a console, shunting many of its fans that can't support the associated costs.  Look at Sony's effort with the controller.  Fans made fun of the Boomarang, but turns out it would have been better than what comes with PS3.  Sony listened to its fans, but instead of redesigning a new controller, they go lazy and use the same design as the last 10 years, slap on a X360 dashboard button and partial sensor control ala Wiimote and pawn it off as a new controller.I don't see Sony upstarting new development houses or all that many new IP's and I am seeing a laziness in securing exclusive titles for their brand.Of course others can disagree or have different perspectives of what they see and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I just like the efforts of Microsoft and I appreciate what they are doing.[/QUOTE] im a cow and i like it, although with all that cash they could have made it a bit better. but why should i be open about it if lemmings won't even bother saying anything good about ps3. And dont say '' its because theres nothing good about it'' because thats a lie.[/QUOTE]
    I didn't like the way Microsoft started attempting to buy everyone out. I thought it was shady.As for 360.... I have nothing against the system... I just dont appreciate how most 360 supporters simply want to see the PS3 fail and throw out all sorts of false crap or only post the bad news about PS3. There is plenty of good things and good news happening around the PS3 so dont use the ''There is no good news for PS3'' arguement... cause that would simply be a crap lie. I think you 360 supporters should stop attempting to see PS3 fail... and keep your eyes on your own system and see if it does good.Both PS3 and Wii are quickly catching up to the total Xbox 360 sales. Sure... 360 will continue to sell... but not nearly at the same rate that it did before there was competition.All three systems are good systems with good games comming to them. Quit trying to hate on one for no good reason. Even if you dont want any games comming to it... that's not a reason to hate a chuck of technology.

    How are Wii owners holding up?

    because 2008 has not equated the formula of better sales = more games. What does the Wii have so far this year? No More Heroes - January, Super Smash Bros. - March, Mario Kart - April...........then nothing else significant up until todays date September 13th......nothing in the foreseeable future either. SO what are you doing with your Wii in the meantime if anything at all? Mine is just sitting here collecting large quantities of dust. =\How are Wii owners holding up?
    Unfortunately, mines sitting next to my ps3, look awfully lonely. I really need to beat Galaxy sometime...Soon, it will be sitting next to my ps3 and 360, and it will look like the awkward kid at the party sitting next to the two amazingly hot chicks who are making out. Yeah. How are Wii owners holding up?
    Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.
    [QUOTE=''Uptown'']nothing in the foreseeable future either [/QUOTE]You lost all credibility right there.
    Ironically, I'm not looking forward TO ANY 1st party Wii games this Xmas. However, there's a few 3rd party games I'm interested in, as rentals.My poor Wii hasn't been turned on in over 6 months. I know that some hardcore Wii fans will have better stories, but my 360 and PS3 just keep getting the games coming.
    [QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK'']Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.[/QUOTE] Okami, Bully...you're playing old PS2 games?GHIII is a nice multiplat, as long as you realize you have no DLC options.SSBB is great fun though, even if it came out so early this year. I should pop that in again.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy''][QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK'']Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.[/QUOTE] Okami, Bully...you're playing old PS2 games?GHIII is a nice multiplat, as long as you realize you have no DLC options.SSBB is great fun though, even if it came out so early this year. I should pop that in again.[/QUOTE]Okami and Bully are great ports. I don't mind them being on the PS2, they are still awesome.I don't even have my wii connected to the internet(i need to buy the ethernet cable hookup thing)Yes. Yes indeed.:)
    i havent played my wii in a while i plan on geting de blob mushroom men and madworld tho
    [QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK'']Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.[/QUOTE] Ahh so you've been playing one exclusive and a bunch of inferior multiplats.....nice!
    Urr, Wii has had the most exclusive AAA's and AA's so far this year, and it's had plenty of great games that have been ignored completely like Boom, Blox, Blast Works, Lost Winds, etc. It's clearly getting plenty of games. Although August has been a very dry month, but it's been dry for 360 and PS3 really, only Sould Calibur 4, Too Human (if you were desperate for a game),
    [QUOTE=''bobbetybob'']Urr, Wii has had the most exclusive AAA's and AA's so far this year, and it's had plenty of great games that have been ignored completely like Boom, Blox, Blast Works, Lost Winds, etc. It's clearly getting plenty of games. Although August has been a very dry month, but it's been dry for 360 and PS3 really, only Sould Calibur 4, Too Human (if you were desperate for a game),[/QUOTE] Those arent games.Dem gamez is teh kiddy and casualzz. You should only incluse teh fpsszz and shooting gamezz
    [QUOTE=''bobbetybob'']Urr, Wii has had the most exclusive AAA's and AA's so far this year, and it's had plenty of great games that have been ignored completely like Boom, Blox, Blast Works, Lost Winds, etc. It's clearly getting plenty of games. Although August has been a very dry month, but it's been dry for 360 and PS3 really, only Sould Calibur 4, Too Human (if you were desperate for a game),[/QUOTE] They won't believe you even if you say this. Their intent is only to hate on the Wii. They can't fanthom that people actually are enjoying games on it.
    For the Wii owners I know, it's 2 extremes. Either they haven't played it in months since they became bored of Mariokart and SSBB, or they still play SSBB, MK, and SMG plus whatever VC games they have regularly.
    I have the most games for my Wii followed in second by my PS3. I only have 3 games for the PS3 and I am struggling to find games that I want to play for it.
    I kinda want a Wii but I know I'll just get bored of it and go straight back to the PS3 after a few weeks, which has been delivering a steady stream of great games this year and an absolute ton of great games in the future. I can't say the same for the Wii. The only real reason I want one is because of SMG and the online store, that's it.
    [QUOTE=''Stonin''][QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK'']Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.[/QUOTE] Ahh so you've been playing one exclusive and a bunch of inferior multiplats.....nice![/QUOTE]...And? There still great games.
    I will be buying Wario Land, Sonic Unleashed, Animal Crossing, and de Blob this coming holiday. Recently I've been playing Geometry War Galaxies, Zack and Wiki, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, and Castle of Shikigami III. No complaints.
    [QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK''][QUOTE=''Stonin''] [QUOTE=''TAKE_IT_BACK'']Lets see... I've been playing Okami, Bully, SSBB and GH3 most recently. I still have a large list of games to buy and not enough cash to buy them all.[/QUOTE] Ahh so you've been playing one exclusive and a bunch of inferior multiplats.....nice![/QUOTE]...And? There still great games.[/QUOTE] ...and you could have enjoyed them more on other systems *shrug*. I have no real problem with the Wii and if you like playing lots of old ports and inferior MP's then thats fine. The majority don't however.
    been playing SSBB, Mario Kart, strongbad, POP and I still need to pick up that FF gameI am looking forward to de Blob, Mushroom Men and maybe Dokapon Kingdom
    [QUOTE=''psyched0ut''] Unfortunately, mines sitting next to my ps3, look awfully lonely. I really need to beat Galaxy sometime...Soon, it will be sitting next to my ps3 and 360, and it will look like the awkward kid at the party sitting next to the two amazingly hot chicks who are making out. Yeah. [/QUOTE]I'm pretty much in the same boat as you.

    Infinite Undiscovery sells 70k first day ...

    [URL]http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=1972[/URL]Which is extremely good considering its a brand new IP, BD only managed that much in its entire first week and went on to sell 210k. ToV did 105k and has much great legs, who know it may reach 220k. IU seems to be doing good, it wont have legs as great, but i think itll hit 150k lifetime if not more.With that said, its really sad that MS missed out on ToV hype, the console is SEVERELY undershipped their, heck it sold 1k units this week, thats one of the WORST WEEKS EVER Either way, Japan has gotten pretty interesting now that MS has made a big of a dent there. Infinite Undiscovery sells 70k first day ...
    As usual, sorry if oldInfinite Undiscovery sells 70k first day ...
    I don't think ToV really has any legs. It bottomed out already. We'll have to wait and watch IU.
    ...then sells 10k next week......then drops off the charts in week 3...while X360 continues to sell under 1K in a week.I respect MS for trying, but when your best is not good enough, I suggest you quit.
    [QUOTE=''Ibacai'']I don't think ToV really has any legs. It bottomed out already. We'll have to wait and watch IU.[/QUOTE]The trend in Japan is that the lifetime sales for your game are going to be double that off the first week. Either way, if you see BDs record, by this stage the game was selling less. Next week when the new month starts MS should have a fresh shipment.BD pushed 200k 360s there, its been instrumental in solidifying all-round Japanese support for the console, unfortunately, ToV has onyl secured around 35k, MS get a move on!
    [QUOTE=''xxThyLordxx'']...then sells 10k next week......then drops off the charts in week 3...while X360 continues to sell under 1K in a week.I respect MS for trying, but when your best is not good enough, I suggest you quit.[/QUOTE]Dude did you read my post?If you follow the sales of Japanese games, they normally double the first week sales. 1k a week is probably the worst MS has ever done in Japan, clearly with a big name game out how can have their lowest sales yet? BD was selling 15-20k 360s every week for around 2 months.Clearly this is a supply problem, but i think itll be too little too late, hopefully IU can boost it a bit but im not counting on it as it doesnt have the hype of BD or the name of ToV
    [QUOTE=''xxThyLordxx''] ...then sells 10k next week......then drops off the charts in week 3...while X360 continues to sell under 1K in a week.I respect MS for trying, but when your best is not good enough, I suggest you quit.[/QUOTE] I think MS knows what they're doing. I doubt they need advice like that.
    [QUOTE=''BioShockOwnz''][QUOTE=''xxThyLordxx''] ...then sells 10k next week......then drops off the charts in week 3...while X360 continues to sell under 1K in a week.I respect MS for trying, but when your best is not good enough, I suggest you quit.[/QUOTE] I think MS knows what they're doing. I doubt they need advice like that.[/QUOTE]Exactly, people said MS should quit back in 05 yet now, 360 owners are enjoying plenty of Japanese support, heck its a lot better than 'none' last gen
    Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.
    [QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.[/QUOTE]Considering Japanese devs are supporting the console, with plenty of niche Japan only titles, i say it has
    [QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.[/QUOTE]Considering Japanese devs are supporting the console, with plenty of niche Japan only titles, i say it has[/QUOTE]

    I will make a dent in Japan soon but it hasn't already.



    Nintendo and Sony's little handheld have Japan in check. Although I think soon enough jrpg support for PS360 will change that.
    [QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.[/QUOTE]Considering Japanese devs are supporting the console, with plenty of niche Japan only titles, i say it has[/QUOTE] I will make a dent in Japan soon but it hasn't already. Nintendo and Sony's little handheld have Japan in check. Although I think soon enough jrpg support for PS360 will change that.[/QUOTE]It depends, as it stands, MS have a presence there and Japanese devs cant ignore it anymore.If MS can even get around 5k a week instead of their usual 2k they will have a sizeable userbase by the end of this gen
    thats great
    [QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.[/QUOTE]Considering Japanese devs are supporting the console, with plenty of niche Japan only titles, i say it has[/QUOTE] I will make a dent in Japan soon but it hasn't already. Nintendo and Sony's little handheld have Japan in check. Although I think soon enough jrpg support for PS360 will change that.[/QUOTE]It depends, as it stands, MS have a presence there and Japanese devs cant ignore it anymore.If MS can even get around 5k a week instead of their usual 2k they will have a sizeable userbase by the end of this gen [/QUOTE]

    No Japanese developers are paying attention to Wii, DS, and PSP.



    Some are paying attention to PS360. Its enough to leave a dent for sure. Most Japanese devs are ignoring PS360. Thats for now and they are taking notice of both consoles. Which is why we'll see massive PS360 jrpg soon enough.



    I wouldn't speculate about the end of this gen until its over.
    [QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer''][QUOTE=''FirstDiscovery''][QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Microsoft hasn't left a dent in Japan. Also if the case has Square-Enix its an automatic cash cow in Japan.[/QUOTE]Considering Japanese devs are supporting the console, with plenty of niche Japan only titles, i say it has[/QUOTE] I will make a dent in Japan soon but it hasn't already. Nintendo and Sony's little handheld have Japan in check. Although I think soon enough jrpg support for PS360 will change that.[/QUOTE]It depends, as it stands, MS have a presence there and Japanese devs cant ignore it anymore.If MS can even get around 5k a week instead of their usual 2k they will have a sizeable userbase by the end of this gen [/QUOTE] No Japanese developers are paying attention to Wii, DS, and PSP. Some are paying attention to PS360. Its enough to leave a dent for sure. Most Japanese devs are ignoring PS360. Thats for now and they are taking notice of both consoles. Which is why we'll see massive PS360 jrpg soon enough. I wouldn't speculate about the end of this gen until its over.[/QUOTE]Did i say the 360 was getting all the attention:?I said the 360 is GETTING attention, especially from the niche as well as the big publishers
    Oh in that case agreed 100%



    The PS360 are getting attention and its about time.
    [QUOTE=''SnakePS360Gamer'']Oh in that case agreed 100% The PS360 are getting attention and its about time.[/QUOTE]I hope so, without Japans full support, you can only expect the generation to go downhill.
    Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4, Cross Edge, Dark Cloud 3, Cry On, White Knight Story. Sure some are exclusive, some are multi but if you look at the big picture. More jrpg are coming for PS360 in the future. I doubt its going downhill.



    I'm so proud to own both.
    Thats pretty great for a 360 gameEdit : in japan that is
    I used to be mad at Squarenix for not suportthe 360 but now its diferent,FF XIII at leese in US I don't care if MS can,t conquer Japan its all about to have japanese suport and good RPGs
  • gas mask
  • who has better community support: Valve ...

    I think its widly accepted by now that these 2 developers have by far the best community support. Both support their games for many many years down the road, and both do it for free. But who is better?Valve on one hand.....-releases expansion packs worth of content updates for free (see TF2)-has very strong mod support, very frequently works together with modders. - often provides feature updates for older games when they are introduced into newer games (something, at least to my understanding, blizzard never did with battle.net)Blizzard on the other hand....- Balances games via patches to near perfection (Starcraft)- Has a very strong, yet simple, map and script editor for all their games- releases patches for 10 year old games (a starcraft patch was released a few days ago)Right now, I personally have to go with Valve, who I think have improved their community support a lot recently with TF2...but on the other hand, Blizzard hasnt released a non-MMO in some time, and I predict that community support will be a huge focus for them in Starcraft 2, and Diablo 3. who has better community support: Valve ...
    Valve is better at giving users more content...Blizzard is better at patches and expanding the game world....hard choice...Valve..i like TF2 extra weapons alot... who has better community support: Valve ...
    That's tough, because they are both great, but I say Valve, with Steam. Also, Blizzard does have incentive to improve WOW, as it does have that pesky monthly MMO fee.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']That's tough, because they are both great, but I say Valve, with Steam. Also, Blizzard does have incentive to improve WOW, as it does have that pesky monthly MMO fee.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I decided agaist including WOW because of that....even though it gets non-stop content updates, Blizzard has a significant financial advantage in doing it.
    Vavle is pretty stellar, they updated DOD:S to the new Source engine, it costed us. NOTHING. Now we have stats, and achievments for DOD:S.Valvue gives out a **** load of extra content for TF2, they made a few maps for CS:S, Steam is also great.Amazing mods for HL2, Steam showcases some of them.Vavle ftw.
    Valve. They release new content for games while releasing new games.
    I don't know which one ''is better'' but I do know that Blizzard likes to support their games no matter how old they are. :) If I remember correctly, a patch for Diablo 2 came out recently that allows you to play without the disc. Diablo 2 came out in 2000.
    I love valve to death, Left 4 Dead will be bought day one, but Blizzard win this, I played WoW for almost 2 years and it really is impressive to see how good their are taking care of stuff, and just generally leading. Blizzard is of the highest quality, just abit over valve imo.
    [QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3'']Vavle is pretty stellar, they updated DOD:S to the new Source engine, it costed us. NOTHING. Now we have stats, and achievments for DOD:S.Valvue gives out a **** load of extra content for TF2, they made a few maps for CS:S, Steam is also great.Amazing mods for HL2, Steam showcases some of them.Vavle ftw. [/QUOTE] Other companies should follow how valve does their job. Valve is great.
    Valve has STEAM. No contest.
    [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Valve has STEAM. No contest.[/QUOTE] but Blizzard has Battle.net...which is outdated now, but back in the day (and when Starcraft 2 will be released) it was simply the best online system out their.
    DOTA>TF2
    Valve Imo...all of what I was gonna say has been said.
    Bungie.
    [QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']Bungie.[/QUOTE] to even classify for ''best community support'' you have to release free DLC all the time...IMO.
    [QUOTE=''cobrax75''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']Bungie.[/QUOTE] to even classify for ''best community support'' you have to release free DLC all the time...IMO. [/QUOTE]Agreed.
    [QUOTE=''cobrax75''][QUOTE=''Gh0st_Of_0nyx'']Bungie.[/QUOTE] to even classify for ''best community support'' you have to release free DLC all the time...IMO. [/QUOTE]Then why is blizzard up there :? With halo 3 Bungie created a seamless support system so fans of the games can voice there opinion and share there forge levels, pictures and videos with everyone. Blizzard comes in second IMO seeing as I played the crap out of starcraft ad battlenet wasa great community builder.
    ValveI don't think there's a developer out there that ''gets'' their fans more than Valve.

    A question for Little Big Planet bashers

    I've seen lately a lot of people in this forum bashing LBP, saying it will flop, how it is a kiddy game and how it will get old fast.I'm not saying this game is a guaranteed AAA or AAAA, it may actually flop. I don't have a crystal ball.By looking at this game i say it has a pretty good chance at AAA or even AAAA. It's my opinion and nothing will change that.I just want to know what will LBP bashers do if this games meets its hype. A question for Little Big Planet bashers
    Well, if LBP manages to meet it's hype, it will get the respect it deserves from Lems.They are hard now, but if it does do well, you'll see. Look at how much Respect MGS4 got, Warhawk, or Uncharted. LBP is headed for a world of Repect, from Lemmings.Hope that answers this for ya! A question for Little Big Planet bashers
    I'm still confused if i should or not buy the game... i'll just have to wait till its reaches the hype eventually... or not... lol
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Well, if LBP manages to meet it's hype, it will get the respect it deserves from Lems.They are hard now, but if it does do well, you'll see. Look at how much Respect MGS4 got, Warhawk, or Uncharted. LBP is headed for a world of Repect, from Lemmings.Hope that answers this for ya! [/QUOTE] sarcasm noted
    lbp=huge lvl editing=Pc
    [QUOTE=''lusitanogamer'']I just want to know what will LBP bashers do if this games meets its hype.[/QUOTE]As always, pretend they never said it wouldn't score high and call it overrated.
    Well it has all the things an AAA title would need.Good new and unique story line.Nice online/multiplayer.It all depends on GS.
    [QUOTE=''druggyjoe3000'']lbp=huge lvl editing=Pc[/QUOTE]It's not a level editor.It's a 2d Platformer with heavy emphasis on Co-Op and User-Created content.My description rules all others :D
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy''] Well, if LBP manages to meet it's hype, it will get the respect it deserves from Lems.They are hard now, but if it does do well, you'll see. Look at how much Respect MGS4 got, Warhawk, or Uncharted. LBP is headed for a world of Repect, from Lemmings.Hope that answers this for ya! [/QUOTE]Well put. :lol:Yeah TC, if it gets AAA/AAAA you can expect a lot of ''LBP is teh Kiddy'', ''Banjo is Way Better'', ''LBP is overrated threads''. Especially if it had a lower score on gamerankings.
    If you hate LBP...where is your soul?
    I dont understand how people can hate on LBP. Its like spore or the sims, even if you dont like it, you can atleast appreciate what its trying to do. I dont like Cubism art but i appreciate its value in the context of art history, same goes with LBP. You may not like the graphics or the style or the gameplay, but you should at least be able to appreciate what its trying to bring to console gamers.
    [QUOTE=''Bread_or_Decide'']If you hate LBP...where is your soul? [/QUOTE]Interesting sig.And uh, I have a soul, and its dating LBP. =P
    If the countless ''MGS4? That's a good movie'' posts say anything you can definitely expect some ''LBP? Enjoy your level editor cows'' trash talk.
    [QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Well, if LBP manages to meet it's hype, it will get the respect it deserves from Lems.They are hard now, but if it does do well, you'll see. Look at how much Respect MGS4 got, Warhawk, or Uncharted. LBP is headed for a world of Repect, from Lemmings.Hope that answers this for ya! [/QUOTE]but Warhawk and uncharted flopped here, and its not like cows show any respect for Halo3 or Gears
    [QUOTE=''angelkimne''][QUOTE=''lusitanogamer'']I just want to know what will LBP bashers do if this games meets its hype.[/QUOTE]As always, pretend they never said it wouldn't score high and call it overrated.[/QUOTE]are not all high rated games over rated
    [QUOTE=''II_Seraphim_II'']I dont understand how people can hate on LBP. Its like spore or the sims, even if you dont like it, you can atleast appreciate what its trying to do. I dont like Cubism art but i appreciate its value in the context of art history, same goes with LBP. You may not like the graphics or the style or the gameplay, but you should at least be able to appreciate what its trying to bring to console gamers.[/QUOTE]I respect that it is trying to do something different, but cows on these forums can make anyone hate a game for no reason from the insane hype
    i think lbp appeals to those who didn't have a ''normal'' childhoodby normal i mean being raised with toys instead of videogames. that's why they want to have a virtual doll now
    [QUOTE=''onewiththegame''][QUOTE=''SolidTy'']Well, if LBP manages to meet it's hype, it will get the respect it deserves from Lems.They are hard now, but if it does do well, you'll see. Look at how much Respect MGS4 got, Warhawk, or Uncharted. LBP is headed for a world of Repect, from Lemmings.Hope that answers this for ya! [/QUOTE]but Warhawk and uncharted flopped here, and its not like cows show any respect for Halo3 or Gears [/QUOTE]Why you gotta bring reality in all of this? Everybody knows only lemmings bash games in here.
    I love how people aren't allowed to dislike a hyped game in System Wars otherwise they're bashing it. I, and all the other people who don't think it looks amazing, have fine reasons for not being amazed by it, and they are far beyond ''Lol it's teh kiddy and for baybees!!!'' I own a Wii and enjoy games like SMG, it's not like I have that kind of attitude, I just don't think the game will keep peoples attentions for long, level editors get boring after a while, especially when you make a level then realise that it's no fun to play it now since you know what everything does. And there's also a lot of trial and error in level editors which is annoying, I spent like 3 days in Boom Blox trying to make towers and houses that would crumble when you blew them up but in the end I just have up.
    [QUOTE=''cabjnico''] i think lbp appeals to those who didn't have a ''normal'' childhoodthat means being raised with toys instead of videogames. that's why they want to have a virtual doll now [/QUOTE]someone needs a hug....